It will take some time for me to sort out exactly where I need to go next in my debate with the Monroe Doctrine Author (MDA). His most recent response is here. I need time to digest and investigate where our divergence of understand has occurred and try to get on track with his meaning.
In the meantime, I would whole-heartedly commend to you, my readers, his latest effort, in which he shares a view that I find compelling and revealing. It is very well written and I absolutely concur with his sentiment and underlying theology in this regard.
I will try to get us back to the debate soon.
- Troll -
Wednesday, January 15, 2014
Tuesday, December 31, 2013
Marks of the Church: The Second Hypothetical
As we move into the new year, our debate will finally get to
the subject originally promised. The main lesson I’ve learned is that I’m going
to stop quoting Presbyterians, as I keep picking the ones who have been
defrocked. Rather than any major regrouping, I’d rather start by pointing out
the obvious. There are a couple of questions that remain unanswered from the
earlier posts.
The phrase that muddies the water is, again, that there
should be a distinction between the sign and the thing signified. While this is
clearly evident as a Roman failing when we think of transubstantiation at
Communion in Roman theology, what is not at all clear is how the Holy Spirit is
involved in the Presbyterian Lord’s Supper. The pneumatic presence that is part and
parcel of this theology is not explained. Let’s go to the standard, a place
where MDA (Monroe Doctrine Author) will have to stand fast.
Chapter XXVII of the Westminster Confession of Faith,
interestingly enough the last chapter, states the following. Sacraments are the holy signs and seals of
the covenant of grace, immediately instituted by God, to represent Christ and
His benefits; and to confirm our interest in Him: as also, to put a visible
difference between those that belong unto the Church and the rest of the world;
and solemnly to engage them to the service of God in Christ, according to His
Word. Clearly, signs and seals of the covenant of grace means something
important here, but I would have MDA sort this out.
Westminster goes on with this, that there is, in every sacrament, a spiritual relation, or sacramental
union between the sign and the thing signified: whence it comes to pass, that
the names and effects of the one are attributed to the other. Now, this is
exactly the issue. My several reads through this seem more similar to Anglican
theology and less similar to Presbyterian theology as I am coming to understand
it. Some explanation will be required in this section as well.
The grace which is
exhibited in or by the sacraments rightly used, is not conferred by any power
in them; neither does the efficacy of a sacrament depend upon the piety or
intention of him that does administer it: but upon the work of the Spirit, and
the word of institution, which contains, together with a precept authorizing
the use thereof, a promise of benefit to worthy receivers. As far as the
location of the power being in the Spirit and the word of institution, we have
no argument. This is classic Reformed thinking and is mirroring the 39 Articles
very closely. What is still unclear is
that there are benefits of sacraments mentioned, but what exactly are those
benefits in the Presbyterian system?
The last two points are not worth a discussion as they are
Reformed givens.
Any Anglican can see why this emphasis on separation of sign
and thing signified seems contrary to the very essence of a sacrament, that
there is something sacred at work. What is more, the Westminster standard seems
to agree with the Anglican position. Surely, I have misunderstood this emphasis
and I am therefore making much of little. I leave these issues to MDA for
explanation.
Second Hypothetical
Let us consider an adult male member of each church. Let us
for a moment assume that this man is baptized and a member in good standing in
the church. The obvious theological point is that this man is a covenant
member. He is outwardly and visibly a member of the covenant community. However,
there is no clear knowledge of his inward or invisible faith. In other words,
despite his participation in church, he may not actually be among the elect.
Now, let us add a visible sin to the picture. This man owns a local hardware
store. His store is open Saturday and Sunday (for clarity and to sure there is
a fourth commandment issue), and he not only works in the store himself on
these days, but forces his employees to do the same. He is unwilling to hear of
anyone telling him otherwise. Let us begin.
I chose this example for several reasons, but there are two
compelling issues here. First, many would say that this isn’t really a sin. I
fail to see the wiggle room myself, but if MDA chooses, he can change the sin
to one more suited to his arguments. Secondly, once we accept this is a true
violation of the fourth commandment in the intention of the man, we can easily
move past the issue of its habitual nature.
Now, it is to MDA to explain how he views the situation of
this man in terms of his ultimate salvation, membership in the church, state of
repentance and finally whether and how he is fenced and disciplined. My own
thoughts I will save for second place as I have far too much ground to cover
without first understanding the process about which we will spar.
To all who chance upon this blog, I wish you a blessed 2014.
– Troll –
Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Marks of the Church: First Hypothetical Rebuttal
This post will be my rebuttal points from this post by the Monroe Doctrine Author (MDA) concerning my first hypothetical. MDA has engaged
the debate and offers us a useful description of PCA views on the child in the
covenant community. Distinctions are drawn between the visible and invisible
church. But to begin this rebuttal, I would draw our attention to the two
definitions of sacrament that have been offered.
MDA has made emphasis of the point at least a couple of
times now that that Presbyterian standards make clear that there should be no
confusion between the sign and the thing signified. The Anglican view is that
the sacrament is the outward visible sign of an inward spiritual and invisible grace.
The key point of emphasis is that the Holy Spirit works on us through the
sacraments. What is the difference here since both sides seem to point to a
distinction, but an outsider may not see it?
The Presbyterian emphasis seems to be that we cannot know
the timing of the working of the Holy Spirit while the Anglican emphasis is
that the sacraments are a gift to us through which the Holy Spirit works on us.
This is actually a rather huge divergence of emphasis and it is seen in action
clearly in both sacraments. To say that the Holy Spirit cannot be understood to
act through the sacraments, though He might choose to do so, is to take a deep
cut into the theology, status and emphasis of the sacraments. It seems a short
walk from this perspective to Zwingli, far closer than the standards suggest
with their use of the term “pneumatic presence.” This phrase to me means
exactly a pointing to the Holy Spirit in the sacrament. Therefore, there seems
to be an inconsistency on this issue. There is recognition that the Holy Spirit
is mysteriously present in the sacraments, but an emphasis that He may not be
doing anything while He is there. Obviously, some clarification on this point
will need to be forthcoming.
Coming back to Paedocommunion for a moment, it is going to
be difficult to sort this out from my own church as the official position of
the Reformed Episcopal Church (REC) within the ACNA is to leave this up to the
local church. This is an interesting and yet frustrating position. I would have
been completely unsurprised by this position from ACNA as this is consistent
with their view of women clergy. However, the REC is substantially older and
seems to have been affected by the same trend in the Anglican world from the
1960s.
But since this is such a hot issue within the Reformed
world, even within the PCA who have discussed it as recently as this year in
conference, I think a more careful look at it is warranted. This is taken from
a blog by Matt Kennedy.
Rather than forming faith in their young, evangelical parents often seem to wait for it to “burble up spontaneously from the heart” and then when some inclination toward Christ does arise, it is—in the worst cases—seized upon, cut open, laid bare on the examining table and probed to see whether it meets various doctrinal requirements rather than fed, channeled, and nourished. I’ve seen children who clearly love Jesus denied baptism/communion by their parents because they don’t sufficiently understand the ins and outs of sola fide or eucharistic theology—which, from my perspective, sets said parents down squarely into the first century sandals of Jesus’ original disciples who barred children’s way to the Lord.
Kennedy quotes this from Doug Wilson.
This is the assumption that when very young children are taught to respond this way, we are simply training them, as you would a puppy, and not really educating them in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. The plastic nature of a child’s soul is thought to be such that you could tell them anything, and since they don’t know any better, this responsiveness of theirs cannot be known to be true faith. And since we cannot “know” it to be true faith, then we need to wait until their profession of faith is mature enough to cross-examine. We are bringing the logic of courtroom verification into the rearing of children. Nothing against courtroom verification in its place, but that’s not what we should be doing here. Christian nurture is more like breastfeeding than it is like grilling a hostile witness…
Reflecting on the comments of MDA and my own last post, I
would draw attention to more to our practice of confirmation and its role in
our liturgy rather than paedocommunion. Paedocommunion has more to do with
inclusion in the invisible church, while confirmation has more to do with
inclusion in the visible church. One has to question both, but at the end of
the day, both remain important. Finally, I think we can discuss some other
aspects of this sacrament, particularly its use in terms of discipline in some
Reformed eyes.
The key point for MDA is the issue of self-examination by
individuals prior to participating in communion. In his argument against paedocommunion,
he asserts that the child of a pre-confirmation age has not yet acquired the
ability to perform this self-examination. To this point, I would concede a
fraction and yet draw attention back to Wilson’s comments above. A covenant
child may never know and remember a day in which he did not believe. This nurturing
with the Holy Spirit through Communion is consistent with an Anglican theology of
upbringing. We are a church involved in the spiritual upbringing of children,
not just the doctrinal education of children. In some respects, our Evangelical
brothers have it right. There cannot be an omission of the spiritual, both in
terms of recognition and experience. The Eastern criticism of the West is valid
on this point.
But once again, my thought process would return to the
liturgical practice of confession and absolution prior to Communion. Either these
practices are considered irrelevant by the Presbyterian or woefully
insufficient to satisfy Paul’s conditions in 1 Corinthians 11. I would argue
that this could not be farther from the case within Anglican theology. This
liturgical ordering is precisely geared to this point. The Roman and Orthodox
examples cannot be ignored. As the older churches, perhaps they do some things
right. Did Luther intend to rebel or to instruct on error? Was the spirituality
of the Church the question on Luther’s mind? John Calvin was certainly a theologian
of the Holy Spirit as he was a great follower of Paul. Paul himself is a
theologian of the Holy Spirit as the chapters that follow 1 Corinthians 11 are
at the center of the continuation of gifts debate. There is seemingly much
emphasis on the mind and a lack of emphasis on the spiritual in the Reformed
debate. The two are inseparable in Anglican theology and this is also a
component of why Evangelicans can seem to be closer to Rome than Calvin at
times.
Finally, for today, I would affirm that the federal vision
movement, distinctly different from the federal representation of both Adams in
our covenant views, is a position that clearly is far from my position. Tom
Wright has certainly written a lot of popular literature. He is not only a federal vision
guy, but a new perspective on Paul guy, both positions that neither MDA nor I
will support.
After MDA is given a chance to respond, my next post will
hopefully take the hypothetical of an adult covenant member who has sinned and
address the issues of discipline.
– Troll –
Sunday, December 1, 2013
A Debate on the Marks of the Church: First Hypothetical
The response to my last post from the Monroe
Doctrine author (MDA) can be found here. Please take a moment to read it,
because I would affirm the assumptions made by MDA in his opening paragraphs. I
think that this is a fair series of statements that do well in framing the
discussion. Prior to getting to the first hypothetical, I would take a moment to
respond to the five points listed.
1.
Concerning sacramental rites, while these are
not true sacraments in the sense of Baptism and the Eucharist, they warranted
preservation in the Book of Common Prayer (BCP) as useful rites. Indeed, a
church without marriage would just not do at all. But even marriage is not a
true sacrament, a view shared by both sides in this debate. While the language
to which MDA referred may be confusing, the terminology is no more than a nod
to our Romish roots. There are only two sacraments.
2.
Concerning Chapter 27.3 of the Westminster
Confession of Faith, I would refer you to Article 26 of the 39 Articles,
remembering that it predates Westminster, and you will see similar language.
The issue of Christ in the sacrament is a slippery slope and I would question
MDA here on the meaning a “pneumatic presence” that I understand to be the
Presbyterian position. Anglicans use of “real presense,” while clearly not
meaning transubstantiation, has come to mean something very akin to Lutheran
consubstantiation. Nonetheless, my personal view, although admittedly in the
minority of all Anglicans, but likely the majority of my Reformed Episcopal
Church (REC,) would be more in line with the “pneumatic presence” as I
understand it and described before. Here, I must admit to Anglican heterogeneity
while defining my position within the most Reformed branch of the stream.
3.
Concerning point 3 and regeneration, this is
clearly going to be a lynchpin of our discussion and one in which I will have
to be careful to observe stringent definitions during our debate. Much of what
will follow later will hinge upon these differences. I do think that MDA has
correctly understood what I have suggested as a position consistent with most
Anglican theologians on this point.
4.
Concerning point 4, there is not much here to
discuss, I am charged with underestimating Presbyterian valuation of the Lord’s
Supper, and that may be true. But relative to the Anglican position in terms of
theology, service order, architecture, frequency and emphasis, any non-catholic
(small “c” intended) view of the Eucharist will seem to be a devaluation. So, I
will concede the point.
5.
Concerning the episcopate, it might be helpful
here to draw parallels on the issue of parity. Bishops have been the seat of
authority in the church since at least the third century. The Holy Sees of the
early Church are mentioned in kind if not specifically by that name in
Revelation. It was common to use the term bishop to refer to the seat of
authority within that principality. Of course, parity among bishops was an
Eastern assumption, one that Rome countermanded leading to the Great Schism in
1054. Anglican history, in addition to issues over theology, is far better
known for this issue of parity. While the Archbishop of Canterbury has a place
of honor among bishops, it is still a place among equals. There exists within
Anglican hierarchy absolute independence of authority between diocese. An
Archbishop is an administrative position over a province, but has no greater
authority than the other bishops. This is probably similar to a Metropolitan in
the Eastern Church. Clergy are ordained to be the local agents of the bishop.
As such, they perform the sacraments by authority of their bishop. This is why
there is a hierarchical distinction between bishops and priests. Nonetheless,
this parity of elders that is so highly valued by the Presbyterians is not
unlike the Anglican parity of bishops. Indeed, the idea of parity has been
preserved from the early church and is consistent with the Eastern side of the
Great Schism.
First Hypothetical
In order to flesh out this discussion, it would seem best to
follow through a number of hypothetical situations and then comment on the
theology at work at each step. It will be necessary in this regard to make
assumptions, but this is acceptable within the world of hypotheticals.
Nonetheless, the viewpoint of man will need to be considered necessarily as a
part of this debate, and I will be harping on this issue to some degree. Let us
begin with the easiest situation.
Describe the
theological sign posts of a covenant child, baptized at infancy (obviously on
or after the eighth day,) brought up in the church, who becomes a member in
good standing in his church where he lives throughout his life until his death.
I’ll go first as both example and a starting point for debate.
This child has communicant parents in the church. What can
be said about the parents is that they are certainly covenant members and have the appearance of being among the
elect. Covenant membership through baptism is reasonably extended to children
of covenant members without much reservation. The Baptismal Covenant set forth
in the BCP, assigns responsibility for the proper Christian education of the
child, not only to the parents and godparents, but also to the whole
congregation present. Whether this plays out in practice is another issue, but
the words set forth in the sacrament are clear on this point. Theologically,
that child is a covenant member. Through the doctrine of election, there are
two possibilities. If the child is elect, the view of baptism becomes similar temporally
to Lutheran theology. This is still not the same as the Lutherans, as the
moving of the Holy Spirit cannot be known to act in one way or the other for
the Anglican, while the Lutheran assumes that the Holy Spirit gives through the
sacrament what is promised by the sacrament. Regeneration is in this case simultaneous
with the sacrament. This is an important point if the child were to die. We
stand in agreement with Lutherans on this issue.
If, instead, the child were not of the elect, by baptism, he
is still deserving of all the rights and privileges of covenant membership. He
might still be raised in the church and indeed spend his whole life in the
church. The difference is regarding the lack of regeneration. Instead, by
baptism, he has essentially blasphemed against the Holy Spirit, sealing his
fate from the start. In every appearance, he may seem to be elect from the
perspective of man, and yet there is a hidden and unknown to man lack of
repentance and true faith. He has taken Communion thousands of times and his
fate cannot be clearer to God.
Both children go through confirmation classes, essentially a
catechism though not called that. Confirmation is the laying on of hands by the
bishop conferring upon the individual full standing within the church. This is
the transfer of responsibility for one’s own Baptismal vows back to the
individual in the case of both children and adults. Adults who are baptized in
the church will also go through Confirmation as their Baptismal vows are also
jointly held by the congregation at the time of Baptism. This transference by
the laying on of hands also confers apostolic succession from the Bishop to his
charges, making the person in communion with the one catholic and apostolic
church on this earth. However, this is, importantly, not a true sacrament in
the Protestant world as it is in the Roman world. As a part of fencing the
table, first Communion is usually at this time for Roman Catholics.
In contradistinction, Anglicans hold to the controversial
practice of paedocommunion, the giving of communion to children before
confirmation. I am calling this controversial, as it was introduced to the
Episcopal Church (USA) about 40 years ago, about a decade after the ordination
of women. To be fair, I’ll have to ask my current priest or bishop whether this
is even done in the REC. Nonetheless, to follow through this process logically,
I will start with the adult who is baptized. We invite all baptized Christians to
our table. This includes adults before they have received confirmation. The
theological position of a child aged 9 who has not been confirmed is similar to
the adult who has not been confirmed. Separate classes or instruction are given
through Sunday School to children, usually at around first or second grade, for
the receiving of communion. This is not akin to confirmation in any way. The
elect child receives the benefits of the sacrament, while the non-elect child
receives all of the dire consequences of 1 Corinthians 11. But to all
appearances, these children would be of the same situation. The adult who is
baptized but not yet confirmed is in the same boat. The emphasis here is on the
sacrament of Baptism. By inclusion into the visible church, the assumption is
made that the person is worthy to receive Communion. We cannot know otherwise
from the viewpoint of man.
Rather than introduce a specific sin at this point, I’ll
yield the floor to MDA for his response. This will certainly have generated a
number of issues to which he will likely want to respond.
- Troll -
Wednesday, November 27, 2013
A Debate on the Marks of the Church: First Clarification
By now, if you are reading this at all, you are aware that
this is a series of posts on two blogs that are interacting with each other. At
the beginning of each future post in this series, there will be a link to The Monroe Doctrine so that the
prior post to which I am responding will be available to my readers. Please
take a moment to read the post entitled “Church
Discipline: an opening response.”
After carefully reading my foil’s opening remarks, it is
evident that I did not adequately present the historical Anglican position. In
my desire to reflect the mood of what is actually taught to the laity, I missed
proper emphasis on what is taught to clergy. Since this will be a series about
ideal ideas as opposed to the relative strengths of particular parishes, I will do
well to stick to doctrine over practice. In my own future, I will certainly
endeavor to make these two congruent. The issue at hand prior to embarking upon
the great issue of discipline is the sacraments.
In a discussion of the marks of the Church, it comes as no
surprise that each will impact the others in some manner. Therefore, a clear
understanding of the theology behind each will shed light on future remarks. We
have little disagreement on the correct preaching of the Word. The only
differences arise from the different methods of selecting passages from which
the sermons are based. Theologically, it is a wash; by emphasis, however, there
is a difference that needs to be underscored.
The Monroe Doctrine author (MDA) asks for clarification on
the issue of the sacraments. Let us begin with the issues raised regarding the
number of sacraments. While it is true that Anglicanism inherited seven from
Rome, it is also true that the Anglican Communion holds that only two were
instituted by Christ and are worthy of the full status of sacrament. The other
five, which I listed before, are worthy only of the title of “sacramental
rites.” This is important because the implication here is that there is an
involvement of the Holy Spirit in sacraments.
This brings me to my first key point on Anglican sacraments.
The 39 Articles join with the Lutheran Augsburg Confession in rejecting the
Zwinglian view of sacraments as anthropocentric ritual. By their very
institution by Christ, Anglicans affirm that sacraments do not do any work, but
rather God the Holy Spirit works on us through the sacraments. The sacraments
are a gift from Christ whereby God does something, as opposed to them being a
God-given way for us to declare something to Him or man. This is an important
distinction, consistent with the views of Augustine, but one that may not be
afoul of Presbyterian thinking.
In terms of Baptism, the laity often view Baptism as an open
sacrament because of our (mutual) paedobaptism. In actual fact, far more adult
baptisms are performed annually than infant baptisms in the Anglican Church. For
the Anglican, this idea of an open sacrament is simply not the case, nor do I
image that it is for the Presbyterian. As Baptism is a sacrament, a person who
is baptized but does not repent and receive regeneration is as much bringing damnation
upon himself as is a person who does not rightly receive the Lord’s Supper. The
language of Paul in 1 Corinthians 11:27-32 is echoed in terms of both sacraments. Interestingly, Calvin
states a similar position in his sermon on Ephesians 2:11-13, including Baptism
on equal footing with the Lord’s Supper as sacraments that condemn the
reprobate. Articles 25 and 26 predate and actually predict the position of the
Westminster Confession on this issue and the next.
The specific issue raised by MDA concerns regeneration.
Following John Donne in the seventeenth century is Bishop Arthur Lake who
developed the covenant model of Baptism within the Anglican Church. A full
understanding of covenant theology in terms of Exodus 19 was outlined. What was also
emphasized, however, is that election and covenant inclusion are not
synonymous. This speaks directly to the issue of regeneration. While
regeneration and Baptism are simultaneous in the elect, this does not deliver
the same view of the sacrament as the Lutheran view. Covenant inclusion does
not guarantee election, as that is involved in predestination. Many Anglicans
will be surprised to find this Calvinist idea in their heritage, but one only
has to study the divines to see that this is consistent. Lake is clear to
strike at the Armininian idea of free will, preferring the liberation of will
through grace that Calvinists will recognize. It is fair to say that this is
not espoused by all Anglican clergy, but it is important in our discussion to
look at the roots of the denomination for the answers to doctrinal issues. It
is clear that Anglicanism has developed a doctrinal mud on this issue, but the
roots are more crystalline. The 39 Articles clearly promote a view consistent
with the later Westminster Confession.
I think that this puts MDA and me on similar footing
concerning the issue of falling from grace. This is simply not possible within
the context of a truly regenerated saint. The thought process that led me to
that earlier quote was one of appearances concerning the practice of
discipline. In good time, we will pound out our differences concerning the
reprobate within the covenant community.
Returning to the issue of fencing the table, as MDA has
reminded me of that expression, we now have another issue to consider. If
Baptism is not only a covenant initiation ritual, but also a true sacrament
through which God the Holy Spirit operates, then the reprobate is already
condemned from the moment of Baptism. This follows logically from the
definition of sacrament. Often, the Anglican laity will produce this terse definition: a
sacrament is an outward visible sign of an inward spiritual and invisible
grace. This definition is an Anglican truth, but it leaves much on the table
for discussion. While not often spoken, the implication of the Holy Spirit
being at work in the sacrament is all that Paul states in 1 Corinthians 11. But
since the reprobate has already been condemned in Baptism, what further purpose
is served by fencing the table?
Again, here is where the view of the Lord’s Supper
demonstrates both differences in theology as well as differences in purpose.
Because of the activity of the Holy Spirit in sacraments, the role of the Holy
Spirit in the Lord’s Supper is sanctification. While this is similar to the
view of Rome, the economy of grace is vastly different. This is not a finite
particle of grace for the repudiation of a particular sin as in the Roman
Catholic system, but rather more like a recharging of the battery. The Anglican
needs this sacrament and feels
unhealthy when going too long between. But I would refer you back to the
service order for references concerning the confession and absolution that
occur just prior to the prayer of consecration. While this may just be a lot of
words to some of the laity, the clergy and certainly Anglican theologians take
that portion of the service seriously. The absolution is as efficacious in
fencing the table as need be, since the reprobate have already condemned
themselves in Baptism.
One final point of clarification is the episcopate. While
excommunication is among the possibilities of censure from a bishop, I have not
heard of it being used with near the same frequency (as in never) relative to
the Presbyterian system, again, my point of reference being my conversations
with pastors. The bishop is far more likely to deal with the clergy under his
charge in a censure than any laity. The issue of parity among ordained elders
is a non-issue under the 39 Articles. The authority resides in the position,
not the man. A retired bishop has no more authority than any Joe in the pew. We
all Western Protestants fell from the same Romish tree. Anglicans feel less
compelled to throw out the baby with the bath water as it were. Rejecting
apostolic succession has more to do with political expediency than any
theological determinative that I can see at this point.
In closing, I have a humorous observation. While I have
chosen to use Luther as my source for the uses of the Law, MDA has selected the
same from Calvin. There is little difference other than the ordering of the
three. But here is also Luther’s quote on the abuses of the Law.
There are three ways in which the Law may be abused. First, by the self- righteous hypocrites who fancy that they can be justified by the Law. Secondly, by those who claim that Christian liberty exempts a Christian from the observance of the Law. "These," says Peter, "use their liberty for a cloak of maliciousness," and bring the name and the Gospel of Christ into ill repute. Thirdly, the Law is abused by those who do not understand that the Law is meant to drive us to Christ. When the Law is properly used its value cannot be too highly appraised. It will take me to Christ every time.
– Troll –
(I have not footnoted this blog post as it is not my custom
in this blog.)
Friday, November 22, 2013
A Debate on the Marks of the Church: Part 2 of Opening Salvo
In beginning of our discussion of the Presbyterian third mark
of the Church, it helps from the outset to know that this is not a subject that
is viewed lightly or without a very substantial history of vigorous debate. The
Westminster Confession of Faith has a section on this topic, and the debate at
the Westminster convention or court is interesting reading. There are books on
this topic. But first, let me set out a general pattern.
As a pastor described to me, the idea is that most instances
are resolved at the first or second level and never get to the last level. What
are these levels? First, there is the concerned fellow covenant communicant or
church member, but there should be two. They would confront a communicant over
an issue of sin, hopefully to guild that person towards counseling with a goal
of repentance. The next level of intervention would be the elders, who would
similarly seek to correct the communicant, with the goal being restoration of
that person by repentance. Finally, things get to the pastoral level and
subsequently and organized process of courts within the church that resembles
the legal system. This is the last resort and is usually reached only by the
communicant either refusing to admit their sin or to be willing to turn from
it.
While I will leave it to my friend to polish this process as
much as he feels is necessary, I want to focus on the model of Church
membership that drives this system. The covenant community has a door in that is baptism and a door out that is excommunication. What
follows in the typical Presbyterian discourse on the subject is a lot of
discussion about 1 Corinthians 5 and Matthew 16:19. “Binding and loosing” are
translated as “forbid and allow,” and there is an implication of oversight based
upon a standard. The Westminster
Confession emphasizes that the Church is a Kingdom, the representation of the
Lord’s Kingdom in the already, but not yet; the inter-advental time in which we
live. Kingdoms have laws, judges and authorities to implement determinations.
This is the justification for their system, and all of it has some Biblical
footing.
The Anglican Marks of the Church
Before I can point out my differences, I should first
describe my system. We will require an understanding by all parties as to the
position from which I debate. The Anglican view of the Church and its authority
has been described as a three-legged stool, the legs of which are scripture,
history and reason. The ultimate authority in the Anglican Church is scripture.
The notable distinctives of the Anglican Church are the Book of Common Prayer,
the Liturgy (including the lectionary) and the episcopate (that claims
apostolic succession.)
The Book of Common Prayer is a misunderstood document. One
common criticism is that we use a secondary source for our services rather than
the Bible. Actually, the Book of Common Prayer is about 90% Biblical quotation,
and about 10% creeds and catholic tradition. Therefore, the criticism is
unfounded. The beauty of the Book is that there is little difference between Anglican
churches. There is a tradition and a familiarity to any Anglican service to its
members, regardless of where they might attend on a given Sunday while
traveling. Later, I will address the theology behind this tradition and the
similarities and differences with Rome.
The lectionary is a three year cycle of scripture that is
read each week. Necessarily, this means that not all areas of the Bible are
covered completely. However, the criticism often leveled against the Anglican
is that they are Biblically illiterate. Actually, though, they know far more of
the Bible than they realize. They just don’t necessarily know where it came
from in the Bible or how to find it. The lectionary also means that the same
scripture is being read in every Anglican church on any given Sunday.
The episcopate is the most germane point to our topic. All
authority in the church is held by the bishops or episcopate, who in turn serve
all of their parishes. We will explore in later posts how that authority is used as we
now have seen a takeover in the Episcopal Church by utilizing the avenues of
power within that body.
Anglican Preaching
While it can certainly vary, the idea is that the sermon is
based upon one of the readings for that day. Each day there is a first reading,
which can be from any place in the Bible, an Epistle, most often from Paul as
you would expect, but the other New Testament letters are not neglected, and a
Gospel reading. Most sermons that I have heard have been based on the Gospel.
The readings are laid out so that there is a vein of cohesion between them each
week. The best sermons find that vein and lay it bare for the congregation. The
theology of the preaching of the Word is the same in theory, but in practical
application, there is far more importance placed in the sacraments. If I were
to ask a random Anglican which is most important, most would point to the
sacraments. I wonder and fear if this is a commentary on the quality of the
sermons. Still, at root, this is a Calvinist group, born of the Reformation,
and shaped largely by Thomas Cranmer. Cranmer was responsible for the creation
of the BCP. A perusal of the various versions of this document will reveal a
drift in theology from time to time, but a solid foundation particularly in the
1928 version, known as a return to the roots version.
Anglican Sacraments
This section will be a bit confusing for a Presbyterian. The
traditional number of sacraments is seven. However, it is recognized that
Baptism and the Eucharist are the only two that were instituted by Jesus. The
others have been downgraded in some Anglican provinces to sacramental rites.
For completeness, those other five sacraments are Confession and Absolution,
Holy Matrimony, Confirmation, Holy Orders (ordination) and Holy Unction
(anointing of the sick.) Although I was actually taught differently with
Evening Prayer substituting for Confirmation, the five I’ve listed here are
straight from the 39 Articles and the definitive answer to the question.
There is a decided difference to how Anglicans view the
sacraments. Starting with Baptism, let us cover the common ground. Paedobaptism
is the rule and the reasoning is the same. It is offered to the children of
saints. While the historical background for this practice is both Catholic and
Reformed, the theology is not taught in the same manner as the heritage from
which it came. It is simply said that Baptism is necessary for salvation. Because
of the near miss of a concordat between the Episcopal Church and the
Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, it might be justly argued that the
Episcopal position on Baptism more closely resembles Lutheran theology than
covenant theology. In practice, this might be the case, but I wonder whether
this is consistent through all of the provinces. Again, the issue of the
Lutheran theology on Baptism that is troublesome is the apparent falling away
from the Church that is seen from time to time and its implications to the
sacrament.
The real difference, though, is seen in the Eucharist. The
first, most obvious distinctive is the location of the altar. It is always the
centerpiece of the church, whether raised at the East end of the church or
raised in a more central position. This architecture speaks volumes as to the
importance of the Eucharist in the life of the Anglican Church. You will not
attend many Anglican services that do not involve the Eucharist, the notable
exception being evening prayer. The Anglicans view both of the sacraments
instituted by Jesus as necessary for salvation, and therefore the Eucharist
holds an important position. Looking back on our scale of Roman Catholic to
Baptist, the Anglicans are much closer to Rome than perhaps any other church of
the Reformation. You will hear the phrase “real presence” here, but not with
the same meaning as with the Roman Catholics. Transubstantiation is
specifically condemned in the 39 articles, but there is a reliance upon
“mystery” as an explanation for the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
It is certainly much more than the pneumatic presence of which the
Presbyterians speak. This is not just a memorial, this is a sacrament every bit
as mystical and important as Baptism.
The next point is that the Eucharist is open to all baptized
Christians. This has huge implications to the Presbyterian, as I have outlined
previously, but this is just not the issue to the Anglican. The Eucharist is
necessary and vital to their sanctification. The full theology of the service
order will be explored later, including the role of the Eucharist and its
climactic position in the service order. What is important here is that the
Eucharist is open; therefore, there is a clear difference in theology at work.
In my discussions about these differences with a
Presbyterian pastor, his remarks were that Anglicans sounded as if they were
guilty of sacerdotalism. Sacerdotalism is the view that priests are given
special spiritual authority to mediate between God and man. Firstly, one read
of the 39 Articles will put this view to rest. There is explicit language that
the authority of the bishop is in the office of bishop, not the man.
Incidentally, we saw this recently in the retiring of Pope Benedict and his
view of his current position. It was a refreshingly Biblical return for Rome. Secondly,
there is no mediation in play here; there is the administration of a sacrament.
The distinction is important. The priest is in the role of servant to his
congregation, while each participant in the Eucharist communes directly with
the elements and His real presence. Any Anglican clergy would dismiss this
charge resolutely.
Anglican Service Order
I must spend a few moments on this subject because it sheds
much light on the issue of sin and repentance from the Anglican perspective.
The service is modeled on the ancient ritual handed down through our Roman
Catholic antecedents. It must be stated from the outset that the economy of
grace supported by Rome is not in any way followed by the Anglican Communion.
Therefore, some of this will seem odd at first as there is a symmetry of action
with Roman Catholicism. In fact, a Roman Catholic would find an Anglican
service familiar to a degree. The whole service is modeled as a prayer, as worship
is an extension of prayer. If you follow one of the acronyms of prayer such as
ACTS, then you will recognize some of the pattern. The full measure of the service order, though, has much more depth and breadth.
The service begins by proclamation and invitation. We are
announcing to God that we have come to His house to worship Him, and we invite
Him to be present with us. There is an exhortation to the congregation to focus
on the worship before them. This is followed by the either the Decalogue or the
summary of the law. It must be said that the Reformed Anglicans do the full
list far more frequently, usually monthly. Next, the service moves to the readings
for the day. This is followed by the Sermon, as you would expect.
What follows is vitally important to our discussion. After
the sermon, the Nicene Creed is recited. This is followed by the prayers for
the whole church and any specific supplications of the congregation. Next,
there is a corporate confession of sin. Anglicans have a preserved sacramental
rite of personal confession as do the Roman Catholics, but Anglicans generally
stick with the corporate prayer of confession. The instruction is to hold your
personal sins in mind as this prayer is recited. The next step is crucial to
the discussion. The priest or bishop delivers an absolution to the
congregation. In Rome, there is penance attached to this step in accordance to
their economy of grace. The Anglican view is that penance of that type is in
error and a represents the main point of departure of the Reformation. The
absolution is corporate and it is taken very seriously in a theological
perspective.
After the peace and offertory, the Eucharist Prayer begins. This
is led by priest and there is all of the ritual that you would expect from the
Roman Catholics. There is usually the ringing of what are called Sanctus Bells
at particular moments of the prayer to draw the attention of the congregation
and emphasize that what is happening is solemn, mystical and special. The
prayer has a solid overlay of good Calvinist doctrine that can be discussed at
some point in the future. Finally, after the Great Thanksgiving, there is a post-communion
prayer, benediction and exhortation.
As you can see, the placing of the confession and absolution
directly before the Eucharist has a purpose that is akin to the reasoning
behind the closed sacrament of the Presbyterians. We will certainly have to
evaluate the validity of this absolution at some point in the discussion, and
we will also need to understand why the Eucharist holds so much prominence in
the theology.
What is clearly missing here is the issue of church
discipline. While there are standards to which clergy are held (think of clergy as equivalent Biblically to Elder,) censure coming from
the bishop if necessary, there is generally speaking counseling available, but
no formal move to excommunicate. Again, this sounds a bit Lutheran, as while
there is a door in, there is really
no formal door out. We fully recognize that people drift away from
the Church, but I think that there is a lack of clarity as to whether these
people fall from faith or if they rather did not have genuine faith from the
start. I’ll be working through this critical point as we go.
This concludes my opening salvo. I will leave it to my
friend to clarify where he feels it is necessary and to ask questions as
needed. Then, when he is ready, we will progress to particular Biblical
references and try to work through them in both systems.
--Troll--
Wednesday, November 20, 2013
A Debate on the Marks of the Church: Opening salvo
This is hopefully the beginning post of a series. I will be
linking you to another blog where the responses will take place. This is a
dialogue. If I fail to answer your comments or questions immediately, it is
because the quality of the other debater requires my concentration. Eventually,
I will get back to you.
This started with the following comments that I will
reproduce here as context for my opening remarks.
“Definition of legalism: any attempt to use the moral law as a set of requirements by which a person can attain favor with God; or, for a Christian, any attempt to use the moral law as posing a threat to the believer or creating a system of punishment and rewards.
Definition of antinomianism ("no law") -- failure to recognize the moral law as a universally valid measure for human conduct before a holy God, by which measure we all fall short; or, for the Christian who has been delivered from condemnation, the failure to recognize the moral law as a guide for how we can show gratitude to God.
These two definitions attempt to make clear the proper and improper use of the law, which I consider an important subject badly mangled by many of the devout.”
Before embarking upon this trek, I will supply some
background. My foil in this discussion is a good friend who is a Presbyterian
(PCA) Elder. I am a former Episcopalian who is now returning to the Reformed
Episcopal Church, a member organization in the Anglican Church of North
America. We are both Calvinists. This is an important point from the outset as
we will be having an in-house discussion between believing brothers in Christ.
We hold the vast majority of theology and doctrine as common ground. Therefore,
we will likely be making assumptions that not all of our readers will understand
or support. You are forewarned and forearmed.
As a point of information, the Presbyterian position on the
marks of the Church is that there are three: Word, Sacrament and Discipline.
This series will be exploring this third point. Both sides have centuries of
theologians lining up behind them, but we want to flesh out the argument as
much to understand our own position better as to convince anyone. In fact, it
would be highly unlikely that either of us will change our positions. We do not
expect or even necessarily desire that outcome. Both of us will want to remain
true to the positions of our respective traditions. I will be working from the
ESV and I suspect that will be consistent with my foil, but we will know in the
rebuttal if I am in error on this point.
Concerning our working definition of Legalism
It appears to me that the conclusion above sets the
framework for the definitions. These definitions are designed in terms of their
use within the church, both good and bad. I think I would start by expanding
the definition and bringing light on various aspects that warrant
consideration. The Law can be defined by the Ten Commandments with the addition
of general revelation. There is a side issue of Levitical or rabbinical law
that needs to be discussed, so that it can be set aside. Here is how this was
defined from the first discussion that I am quoting.
“[T]he law is the moral duty that God requires of people, as revealed generally in conscience and summarized in the 10 commandments. Jesus summarized the moral law as requiring us to love God with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength and our neighbor as ourselves.”
This definition works well for me, so that we understand
that rabbinical law is excluded from the discussion. This follows from basic
covenant theology and both sides will agree on this point. I will begin with a
general definition of legalism and build to the more specific. Legalism is strict and literal adherence to
a legal system. There is an implication of extreme compliance to the point that
goes to beyond the purpose of the law. In Biblical context, the Pharisees
were legalists in terms of both moral law and rabbinical law. Since Jesus was
obviously at odds with that group as his primary foil throughout the Gospels,
what did he say about legalism?
Any discussion about Jesus and the law must begin with the
Sermon on the Mount particularly Matthew 5:17. “Do not think
that I have come to abolish the Law or the
Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” One
can easily take the verses that follow out of context and arrive at the
conclusion that Jesus is proposing an extreme form of legalism. Actually, He is
pointing out the futility of keeping the law for man at that point in history.
He is trying to get men to understand that they are in a hopeless situation
under the law without some sort of help or rescue. Both of us will agree on
this point.
Turning a moment to the Rich Young Ruler, an excellent
example of a legalist, in Matthew 19:16-26, we see Jesus suggest that the key
to salvation is to obey the moral law. The young man completely misses the
point of the instruction, so Jesus throws yet more law at him until he
capitulates. So much attention, particularly in suburban America, is given to
verse 23, that it is often missed that verse 26 is closely related to it. The
point of this story is that obedience to the law for salvation is impossible
for man alone. Again, there will be agreement on this point.
Martin Luther described the three uses of the law, which
bears repeating in this space, though
I have written on the topic in the past. There is the civil use of the law,
which is as a force to restrain sin. This is in the context of general
revelation or natural law. There is the pedagogical use of the law, which shows
people their sin and points to mercy and grace outside of themselves.
This is the use for confrontation and refutation of sin for the purpose of
pointing the way to Christ. Finally, there is the normative use of the law, which
is the use of the law for saints as a norm of conduct, freely accepted by those
in whom the grace of God works the good. The problem arises when the pedagogical
use of the law is attempted on saints. This is how legalism begins. When the
doctrines of grace are not understood, there is an innate tendency to return to
the law. This expectation that the law provides any role in salvation is
misguided. Once again, I do not anticipate any issues here.
Concerning our working definition of antinomianism
This definition is very good as it makes specific mention of
our gratitude. The problem with the antinomian is that he does not appreciate
the overwhelming nature of the gift of mercy and grace through Christ’s earthly
ministry, crucifixion, resurrection and ascension. Often, people want to skip
to the good stuff and miss the foundation of why Christ was necessary. This is
true of the antinomian. Anyone who fully understands the depth of despair associated
with sin, particularly the condition of sin and its implications for salvation,
and then is taught the doctrines of grace, this person will not fail to be
grateful to Jesus for His condescension to become human, his sacrifice and
triumph over death, and finally his ascension and role as mediator and
advocate. There are no antinomians who understand this formula. This begs the
question as to whether an antinomian is a true believer. I would argue against
their faith being genuine. This seems to be consistent with the text and
doctrinal teaching from both sides of this debate.
Marks of the Church
By now, you are asking, where is the debate? Here is the
debate finally: what are the marks of the church? As I’ve said above, the
Presbyterian answer is that there are three.
- 1. The preaching of the Word, correctly and continuously.
- 2. The keeping of the sacraments, baptism and the Lord’s Supper.
- 3. Church discipline.
What is meant by each of these? The preaching of the Word means something very different than the
typical “message” many of us hear on Sundays. We are given a steady diet of
topical preaching. This phrase refers to preaching through a book of the Bible from
beginning to end, and keeping a proper perspective on the relationship between
law and gospel. The Reformed notion of the role of preaching is a very high
order of importance. It is through the preaching of the Word that the gospel is
first heard. The Holy Spirit acts to reveal the truth of the gospel and
transform the hearts of the believers. This is a sacred and important task, not
just the teaching of some moral checklist each week. The preaching of the Word is
active and is the means through which the Holy Spirit moves in regeneration. You
will have no argument here from me.
The keeping of the
sacraments is a topic that will certainly cause some discussion. First, it
is important to define the two sacraments from a Presbyterian perspective, and
then discuss the implications of each. Baptism is viewed from a covenant context,
paedobaptism is the norm. This is not an exclusion of adult believer’s baptism,
but an inclusion of the children of saints into the covenant community. This is
Biblically consistent with the Jewish example. However, while the Lutheran
believes that baptism delivers what it promises, the Presbyterian still expects
the individual to come to a full knowledge of the love and mercy of Jesus, and
to believe in the salvation promised in the Gospel. This means that there is a
possibility that some Baptized people may not be among the saints. But this is
not problematic or inconsistent. There are Jews who are members of the covenant
community, but who did not receive salvation, notably Judas Iscariot. What is
interesting here is that there is an acceptance of this fact, and yet a reticence
to administer the next sacrament to all covenant members.
The Lord’s Supper can be viewed in several ways, and rather
than listing them all, let us look at the spectrum and see where the Presbyterians
fall. On one end, there is Roman Catholic notion of transubstantiation. This
means that the elements actually mystically transform their substance from mere
bread and wine to the actual body and blood of Christ. There is a “real
presence” of Christ in the elements. This is a key point of divergence in the
Reformation, and one that both sides in our debate will not condone. The other
end of the spectrum is a mere memorial. This is the Baptist view on this
sacrament, and it is probably a stretch to call the Lord’s Supper a sacrament
at all in that context. It is reduced to nothing more than a prayer over food.
The Presbyterian view is that first of all, it is a remembrance, but of the
death and sacrifice of our Lord. It is akin to a funeral in some respects. But
the real telling point here is that the Lord’s Table is placed below the
pulpit. This architectural anomaly sheds light on the relative importance of
the sacraments to the correct preaching of the Word. Rather than the Roman Catholic
understanding of a real presence, the Presbyterian view is of a pneumatic
presence, one that stresses the work of the Holy Spirit. I will leave this to
others to define this distinction better. What is most interesting to this
discussion, however, is that the Presbyterian sacrament is a closed sacrament.
This means that it is only open to saints in
good standing with the church. The issue here is unrepented sin. The worry
is that a person with unrepented sin who takes the elements eats and drinks
condemnation upon himself. The closed sacrament is explained as a protection of
the person from blaspheming against the Holy Spirit and thus eternal damnation.
Notice the vast difference between the covenant theology applications to each
sacrament. Baptism is offered to children with no knowledge of their eventual
lives, and yet the Lord’s Supper can be withheld from church members who have a
particular issue with sin.
This brings us finally to the third mark of the church, church discipline.
“I would say that church discipline is not an attempt to bring a believer under the condemnation of the law. Rather, it is a warning to someone who refuses to acknowledge and repent of sin that they need to repent, and that a refusal to agree with God about their sin may indicate that they are not in the faith. It is not the fact of sin, but the refusal of repentance, that brings about discipline.”
This definition is completely in line with the discussion
above. Notice that there seems to be an implied ability of a person to fall
from grace. This is a point of consistency that will have to be addressed later in the discussion. In addition, a full description of the
Presbyterian system of church discipline will be required. In the next installment, I will lay
out that system and then begin my presentation of the Anglican perspective.
– Troll –
Sunday, November 17, 2013
Concerning Genesis 6
The first eight verses of Genesis 6 were referred to me for exegesis yesterday, and I thought that the handling of these verses warranted immediate attention. The questions that were raised concern the various translations and interpretations of two phrases in particular: sons of God and the Nephilim.
The single most important point in beginning this discussion is to recognize its position in the narrative and its purpose to the story. Genesis 6 is best known for the beginning of the Noah narrative. Therefore, to justify the flood, we must first understand the problem to which God was reacting. God has set out an instruction to man to multiply and fill the earth. This is the context of the preceding chapters and is summarized again in verse 1. The accompanying quality of man that must not be forgotten is that he has filled the earth with increasing wickedness. So, who then are these sons of God?
Three interpretations are offered historically for this phrase. The first is based upon the use of this phrase in Job, known as being the oldest text in the Bible. In Job 1:6, the idea of fallen angels is implied by the inclusion of Satan among them. However, the Job passage is not used in this context at all. The phrase sons of God is meant to imply a heavenly court and the sons of God are heavenly kings. (Since God exists outside of his creation, and therefore outside of time, it is not completely without logic to extrapolate these kings to include the Apostles, but this isn’t necessary for the discussion.) What is important is that the conversation of the sons of God draws the attention of Satan onto Job. It is clear from Job 1 that Satan was not numbered among the sons of God, but that he was there also.
More importantly, this notion of fallen angels does not speak to an evil of man that would justify the flood. This element is critical for our notion of a just God. If the Christian notion of justification is the cornerstone principle of understanding of Christ’s mission, then the premise of a just God is equally important as the rationale for that cornerstone.
Mark 12:25 is a second problem for this interpretation as Mark suggests that angels in heaven are not sexual beings. The actual passage states that angels do not marry nor are given in marriage, but this is yet another Biblical reference to the role of marriage in procreation. The implication is clear: immortal creatures such as angels to not procreate, particularly not with creation, i.e. humans. Matthew 24:38 and Luke 17:27 both refer back to this verse (Genesis 6:2) by saying that in those days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage. Jesus is speaking, and the antecedent for the pronoun they does not in any way imply anyone other than man on earth.
Two alternate interpretations are either tyrannical human judges or kings versus followers of God from the male descendants of Seth. The first of these two explanations is helped again by the same Job passage we addressed above. The phrase “sons of…” is an idiomatic Hebrew expression that means a group of men who are led by a figurehead known as the “father.” Similarly, the word “satan” means an adversary of that group, not necessarily the proper name Satan. In the Job passage, there is similarity to the Genesis 3 narrative and compelling reason to use the proper name Satan in that place. So, to follow this analogy into Genesis 6, a group of tyrannical human judges or kings who took daughters for themselves in a violent manner or outside of marriage would be contrary to God’s purpose of procreation and therefore sinful.
The major problem with this explanation is that it is contrary to the grammar of the passage, at least at first glance. We have in Genesis 6:2 the sons of God and the daughters of man. This would imply that the sons of God were the righteous ones, while the daughters of man were the sinful lot. Any union between the two would, consequently, be sinful and taint the sons of God with sin. The elephant in the room is Jesus who most frequently uses the title “Son of Man” for himself.
Nonetheless, the above logic yields the third interpretation that the sons of God are the male descendants of Seth, who are a Godly line, with the daughters of man being the female descendants of Lamech, a quite ungodly line, who are possibly demon possessed. What is important context to all three of these interpretations is what is laid out in Genesis 6:5-8. Man is described as wicked, while there is a remnant of righteousness in Noah. We are not told whether there are others who are also blameless in their generation only that Noah is. We are told that God intends to blot out all of the flesh on the earth and start over with Noah’s line. We know that subsequently the line of Noah fails to remain faithful and righteous. This makes clear that the problem of man is the condition of sin, which remains in the flesh. It is to this condition of sin that God is reacting. God must certainly know that His action (the flood) will have no lasting consequence on this condition, and yet we are given a demonstration of the wrath of God toward sin. The purpose of this flood must therefore be to graphically demonstrate man’s offense to God with sin, as the lessons of Eden are lost from the consciousness of man.
The phrase Nephilim has inspired equal supernatural subversion of the text. The Greek translations of the Hebrew Bible used the word “giants” in this place. This is the start of the problem. This phrase also appears in Numbers 13:33, where the Greek translation has imbued itself into the modern thought stream. In Numbers, these Nephilim are attributed with great stature or height. And yet this is not the Greek notion of “giant” that permeates some interpretations. The Greek understanding of giants was a race that was not human and akin to the gods. This Greek overlay on the Hebrew hides the truth of the matter. The Nephilim were a group living in Canaan at the time, a group mighty warriors. This could be an expression of fear from the Israelites of these Canaanites. The Hebrew word itself means the “fallen ones,” a phrase and translation that has much greater cohesion with this passage. Reading into Genesis from Numbers the stature of this people is fraught with peril as the meaning here is much better suited by the original Hebrew meaning of the word. The fallen ones is much more consistent with the context of the whole passage.
In summary, the purpose of this passage is to demonstrate the rampant wickedness of man on the earth, not to imply supernatural beings meddling in human affairs. We are quite good at mucking things up ourselves without any help due to our fallen natures. We are given a picture of the state of man to which God will ultimately react in vengeance and wrath. Without the notion of justice to give moral foundation to the story, God can appear capricious to man. However, what is laid out in Genesis 6 is more than adequate justification for God’s wrath, the true vision of what God’s wrath means for fallen man.
-Troll-
The single most important point in beginning this discussion is to recognize its position in the narrative and its purpose to the story. Genesis 6 is best known for the beginning of the Noah narrative. Therefore, to justify the flood, we must first understand the problem to which God was reacting. God has set out an instruction to man to multiply and fill the earth. This is the context of the preceding chapters and is summarized again in verse 1. The accompanying quality of man that must not be forgotten is that he has filled the earth with increasing wickedness. So, who then are these sons of God?
Three interpretations are offered historically for this phrase. The first is based upon the use of this phrase in Job, known as being the oldest text in the Bible. In Job 1:6, the idea of fallen angels is implied by the inclusion of Satan among them. However, the Job passage is not used in this context at all. The phrase sons of God is meant to imply a heavenly court and the sons of God are heavenly kings. (Since God exists outside of his creation, and therefore outside of time, it is not completely without logic to extrapolate these kings to include the Apostles, but this isn’t necessary for the discussion.) What is important is that the conversation of the sons of God draws the attention of Satan onto Job. It is clear from Job 1 that Satan was not numbered among the sons of God, but that he was there also.
More importantly, this notion of fallen angels does not speak to an evil of man that would justify the flood. This element is critical for our notion of a just God. If the Christian notion of justification is the cornerstone principle of understanding of Christ’s mission, then the premise of a just God is equally important as the rationale for that cornerstone.
Mark 12:25 is a second problem for this interpretation as Mark suggests that angels in heaven are not sexual beings. The actual passage states that angels do not marry nor are given in marriage, but this is yet another Biblical reference to the role of marriage in procreation. The implication is clear: immortal creatures such as angels to not procreate, particularly not with creation, i.e. humans. Matthew 24:38 and Luke 17:27 both refer back to this verse (Genesis 6:2) by saying that in those days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage. Jesus is speaking, and the antecedent for the pronoun they does not in any way imply anyone other than man on earth.
Two alternate interpretations are either tyrannical human judges or kings versus followers of God from the male descendants of Seth. The first of these two explanations is helped again by the same Job passage we addressed above. The phrase “sons of…” is an idiomatic Hebrew expression that means a group of men who are led by a figurehead known as the “father.” Similarly, the word “satan” means an adversary of that group, not necessarily the proper name Satan. In the Job passage, there is similarity to the Genesis 3 narrative and compelling reason to use the proper name Satan in that place. So, to follow this analogy into Genesis 6, a group of tyrannical human judges or kings who took daughters for themselves in a violent manner or outside of marriage would be contrary to God’s purpose of procreation and therefore sinful.
The major problem with this explanation is that it is contrary to the grammar of the passage, at least at first glance. We have in Genesis 6:2 the sons of God and the daughters of man. This would imply that the sons of God were the righteous ones, while the daughters of man were the sinful lot. Any union between the two would, consequently, be sinful and taint the sons of God with sin. The elephant in the room is Jesus who most frequently uses the title “Son of Man” for himself.
Nonetheless, the above logic yields the third interpretation that the sons of God are the male descendants of Seth, who are a Godly line, with the daughters of man being the female descendants of Lamech, a quite ungodly line, who are possibly demon possessed. What is important context to all three of these interpretations is what is laid out in Genesis 6:5-8. Man is described as wicked, while there is a remnant of righteousness in Noah. We are not told whether there are others who are also blameless in their generation only that Noah is. We are told that God intends to blot out all of the flesh on the earth and start over with Noah’s line. We know that subsequently the line of Noah fails to remain faithful and righteous. This makes clear that the problem of man is the condition of sin, which remains in the flesh. It is to this condition of sin that God is reacting. God must certainly know that His action (the flood) will have no lasting consequence on this condition, and yet we are given a demonstration of the wrath of God toward sin. The purpose of this flood must therefore be to graphically demonstrate man’s offense to God with sin, as the lessons of Eden are lost from the consciousness of man.
The phrase Nephilim has inspired equal supernatural subversion of the text. The Greek translations of the Hebrew Bible used the word “giants” in this place. This is the start of the problem. This phrase also appears in Numbers 13:33, where the Greek translation has imbued itself into the modern thought stream. In Numbers, these Nephilim are attributed with great stature or height. And yet this is not the Greek notion of “giant” that permeates some interpretations. The Greek understanding of giants was a race that was not human and akin to the gods. This Greek overlay on the Hebrew hides the truth of the matter. The Nephilim were a group living in Canaan at the time, a group mighty warriors. This could be an expression of fear from the Israelites of these Canaanites. The Hebrew word itself means the “fallen ones,” a phrase and translation that has much greater cohesion with this passage. Reading into Genesis from Numbers the stature of this people is fraught with peril as the meaning here is much better suited by the original Hebrew meaning of the word. The fallen ones is much more consistent with the context of the whole passage.
In summary, the purpose of this passage is to demonstrate the rampant wickedness of man on the earth, not to imply supernatural beings meddling in human affairs. We are quite good at mucking things up ourselves without any help due to our fallen natures. We are given a picture of the state of man to which God will ultimately react in vengeance and wrath. Without the notion of justice to give moral foundation to the story, God can appear capricious to man. However, what is laid out in Genesis 6 is more than adequate justification for God’s wrath, the true vision of what God’s wrath means for fallen man.
-Troll-
Thursday, November 7, 2013
Disconnect?
The dream was brief but this is what I believe the Lord wants me to tell you.
In your recent past there has been a disconnect about something the Lord may have spoken to you, [Troll.] He has sent people to you but when they arrive you are not hearing them or recognizing the need/assignment because of the disconnect. I believe you are called to be a bell ringer,a la John Knox and that [your wife] is somehow involved as well; that this bell ringing will be done in public, not just in study. Possibly opening your home?
I would suggest praying into this message and seeing if something's missing.
Hope this is confirming with you, if any questions please let me know!
In your recent past there has been a disconnect about something the Lord may have spoken to you, [Troll.] He has sent people to you but when they arrive you are not hearing them or recognizing the need/assignment because of the disconnect. I believe you are called to be a bell ringer,a la John Knox and that [your wife] is somehow involved as well; that this bell ringing will be done in public, not just in study. Possibly opening your home?
I would suggest praying into this message and seeing if something's missing.
Hope this is confirming with you, if any questions please let me know!
Before my reformed friends start snarking at this, remember that
many people have an unshakeable belief in the continuation of certain spiritual
gifts. We must begin with the paradigm that cessationism is wrong, and even the
more preferred model of gifts centering around moments of specific divine intervention
(Christ’s earthly ministry, for example) must be suspended for a moment. This
conversation is within the world of continuation, and let’s hold to that
paradigm for now. My response may then be in kind with this particular piece of
advice.
In what about my recent past has there been any disconnect? Let’s focus on
some life events of mine for a moment. I felt very strongly that the church was
sick and much of what passes for teaching is as Biblical as, well, any typical
Sunday “message” from a host of tele-evangelists. I discussed this with a
variety of priests, pastors and friends from a large cross section of the
American Christian landscape, from Roman Catholic to Pentecostal, from Lutheran
to Episcopal, from Baptist to Presbyterian. The resounding retort that I
received from all was to do something about it. But first and foremost, and
this is important, I should go get trained. It cannot be other than a God
moment that three different priests and pastors suggested the same seminary
with no foreknowledge of what the others had said. When the right change of job
that enabled me to attend seminary suddenly arises at the same time, how can it
be said that I did not listen to God and my belief in this effectual calling
when I retired from the clinical practice of medicine, took this job and
matriculated at Fuller Theological Seminary?
So, if not these people, who I know well and trust, whom I believe
are Godly men despite my theological differences with them, then who? To whom
have I failed to listen? I have been faithful to this mission and I am
continuing forward on this path even now.
For the next part, the issue rises of being a bell ringer of the
sort as John Knox. Knox was an uncompromising man if there ever was one. He
spent as much of his time serving the English throne in jail as not due to his
unwillingness to compromise on doctrinal issues. While I hope that I have not
been wished to be incarcerated under penalty of death, it is still a compliment
of sorts to be compared thusly.
But it must be stated plainly that I while I might be the most theologically
reformed and consistent person in this room of friends, that does not
mean that I am yet qualified to beat any drums or ring any bells in public,
anything more public than a blog that has limited readership and justifiably
limited authority. The act of preaching and teaching is the primary tool by
which the gospel is spread. The public arena for this action, the pulpit, requires a
particular education and training. Any who seek to skip a step and teach prior
to attaining this training would do well to heed Paul’s warnings to teachers.
The world is full of false gospels, some coming unfortunately from the pulpits of our
churches. I have remained on task and on assignment to combat this problem. But,
I will not go out of step.
When and if my wife is involved in my future ministry, she will graciously
defer to me as she does now in medical matters. It is amazing that so many
believe that because she is married to a physician, and even was a first
assistant to a surgeon, that she is as knowledgeable of medicine as the
physician. That is very unfair to her, and not entirely wise on the part of the
person asking her medical advice. Similarly, the wife of a priest or pastor is
also not the theological or doctrinal expert. Nor is she the back door to the
ear of the priest or pastor for complaints. This is as unfair and unwise as it
was to the physician’s wife. My wife will be supportive and helpful in every
way that she can be when the time comes, I’m sure.
As to the opening of my home, if this is an invitation for me to
host a Bible study, where we actually read and discuss the Bible, then I’ve
been open to this idea for quite some time with no takers, at least none who
are willing to commit to the course. I would love to plow through Romans with
people who are willing to read and learn. That group, alas, has not yet
presented itself to me.
As to prayer, I will say only this. I use the acronym ACTS for
prayer as I find it sets the priorities in order. I have stated many times that
I feel that supplications are not my strong suit as I have already received
Christ and what more could I ask to receive beyond that? There is no room in my
prayer for anything as mundane as this topic. God has spoken loudly to me
through the actions, words and circumstances that I have experienced. There is
no disconnect today or at any time in the last two years of this journey.
-Troll-
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