Showing posts with label Witness. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Witness. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Greek New Testament Documents

Last week in Men's Bible Study, I was called out for making a statement without sufficiently delineating the limits of the claim.  If you understand that the format of Bible study does not allow me the ability to drone on for minutes, perhaps I can be forgiven.  Let me review the argument and the claim.  Then, I will try to clarify the ambiguity that arose and provide the background that both supports the original claim and was omitted in the original discussion.

The discussion was concerning the authority of scripture.  The issue that was raised was concerning the believability of scripture, particularly in terms of particular New Testament claims.  I responded that the Greek New Testament documents are one of the most historically strong documents by the standards by which academicians evaluate other historical documents or even literature.  In addition, I asserted that secular sources corroborate parts of the New Testament, validating its historical authenticity.  The particular assertion had begun with a reading of 1 Corinthians 15:1-19.  This is Paul's appeal to the historical truth of the resurrection based upon the eye witness accounts of people who, then, were still alive.  The connection was made by the observer between the Pauline quote and the secular corroboration, a connection that was not made by me specifically, but neither was it specifically denied by me.  This was admittedly sloppy scholarship.  This post is an effort to clean up the mess for those interested parties.  There is much to say on this topic, but primarily, I wanted to provide a sort of bibliography or stepping stones to further inquiry. 

Every Easter, A & E, the History Channel, Discovery Channel, even National Geographic Channel, roll out their specials on the life of Jesus with their “respected scholars” telling us the party line.  Make no mistake, there is a cottage industry built on creating doubt in fragile Christians and reaffirming the atheist certainty of the secular world.  The Jesus Seminar is one of the main offenders, and John Dominic Crossan, its founder, is one of the worst offenders.  He seems to appear on all of the shows and speaks with the sound of authority, and his Irish accent, convincing all that Jesus is not a historical person.

Unfortunately, Paul doesn’t agree with him.  Here is the text to 1 Corinthians 15:1-19.  Please understand that I do not mean to prove that any secular sources would confirm the resurrection.  Why would they do that?  What they do instead is confirm particular events in the New Testament, most often from Acts, and attempt to justify these events in the light in which they would prefer them to be seen.

Who were the interested dissenting parties?  First, there were the Jews, particularly the Jewish Sanhedrin and other Jewish leaders.  Their interest was in ending the assumed apostasy of the Christian sect, to prevent the believed subversion of more of their people.  Plus, they had a vested stake in being right; after all, they were instrumental in the death of Jesus.  Second, there were the Romans.  They just wanted peace and taxes.  The trouble was that the Christians and the Jews were such a volatile mix that peace was becoming more difficult to come by.

And so we have these witnesses.  The one that everyone knows about is Flavius Josephus, a historian who twice mentions Jesus in his writings.  It has been widely believed that his documents have either been altered in later years by Christians, or that they are complete forgeries.  It is interesting that other parties will lend credibility to Josephus in any area other than this one area.  An Arabic translation of Josephus was found by a Jewish scholar, Schlomo Pines, in 1972.  The unaltered text of that discovery is translated in this way.
At this time, there was a wise man called Jesus, and his conduct was good, and he was known to be virtuous.  Many people among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples.  Pilot condemned him to be crucified and to die, but those who would become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship.  They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive.  Accordingly, he was perhaps the messiah, concerning whom the prophets had reported wonders.  And the tribe of the Christians, so named after him, has not disappeared to this day.
Frederick G. Kenyon was a respected Biblical scholar with the British National Museum at the early part of the twentieth century.  Here is an online copy of one of his pertinent manuscripts.  His conclusion is that the New Testament documents, as we move forward in archeology and research, become increasingly more validated, and the gap between the death of Christ and the earliest records has become so small that there is insufficient time to insert the creation of legend into the record.  By the way, the mechanical sound of the audio version of the book in the above citation is difficult to follow, but it does make for an interesting listen if you rather.  I have not read even a fraction of this text as of now, but it was referenced in the bibliography of my source material and I have tracked it down for you.

The Babylonian Talmud gives a great description of the events of Holy Week. 
He shall be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy.  On the eve of the Passover, this Jeshua was hanged.  For 40 days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried “He shall be stoned because he practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy.” Anyone who can say anything in his favor come forth and plead on his behalf.  But because nothing was brought forth in his behalf, he was hanged on the eve of the Passover.

Ulla retorted, “Do you suppose he was one for whom a defense could have been made?  Was he not a mesith?” [enticer or heretic]
Notice that the appeal is not to deny the miracles attributed to Jesus, but rather to account for them as sorcery.

Gary Habermas is another author who has written on the subject of Knowledge of Jesus outside the Gospels.  Here are some excerpts from his book.  This is an incredible source and worth wading through if you have interest in this topic.  A Lutheran source of good scholarship on the subject comes from Paul L. Maier of the Department of Ancient History, University of Western Michigan, Kalamazoo.  Here is an article he wrote for Issues, etc

The intent of this post was not to prove the validity of the New Testament documents.  It was, instead, an attempt to show that scholarship is moving closer to confirming larger portions of the Biblical record, not disproving it.  The resurrection remains the key historical point.  That is not ever going to be upheld by hostile witnesses.  The point is to prove the veracity of the rest of the New Testament so that we can intellectually settle on the authority of Scripture, faith based on public historical events, not blind faith in a warm feeling or events that happened in a closet.

--Ogre--

Saturday, March 26, 2011

A response out of context #2

The following interaction occurred on another format, and I have moved it here.  This was linked to an online version of J. Gresham Mechan's Christianity and Liberalism, that is linked again here, and is now permalinked in the right column.
This is a challenge, but it is very readable. Start here if you want to understand what I've been saying about The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit was to sent to testify about Jesus and His redemptive work on the Cross. You know there is a different Jesus and a different Gospel at work when people tell you the spirit is telling them about ANYTHING else.
And now the comment:
I couldn't disagree more.
   John 14:26 tells us: But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
   Holy Spirit talks to those who have received Him on a daily basis about ALL things. Those who don't seem to hear him, ever, should question whether they ever received Him.
   Furthermore, 1 John 2:27 tells us the same thing - the anointing being Holy Spirit.
   As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
   It saddens me that you don't hear Holy Spirit talking to you about anything other than Christ and the Gospel. He talks to me about how to care for my children, my husband, my body (health), and how to treat others. He speaks daily about EVERYTHING on my life.
   I hope that you will consider really allowing Holy Spirit to open your mind to this one.
When someone accepts a challenge, one of the conditions is to actually read the material.  Commenting without reading requires unsubstantiated assumptions, and proves nothing.  Making a declaration without offering a sufficient proof is merely asserting, and it does not convince.  Let’s start at the top and go down.  First, you think you are disagreeing with me.  That’s the problem.  You are actually disagreeing with Jesus, John, Peter, Luke and Paul. And please read the book, regardless of your anger with Ogre.

John 14:28.   When you quote Jesus, be sure you include the whole quote.  If you were to quote the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector, and only quoted one line, you might think that the Pharisee was actually righteous before God.  When you quote a verse, it is probably good not to leave out phrases.  What will the Holy Spirit teach the Apostles, and later us?  Jesus calls the Holy Spirit the Spirit of Truth.  He is comparing what the Holy Spirit will teach to what the reprobate can know without the Holy Spirit.  The difference between the elect and the reprobate is that the elect believe in Jesus and His redeeming work on the cross because the Holy Spirit gave them the gift of this belief, while the reprobate considers this talk folly.  It's all about Jesus.

1 John 2:27.  The irony of this passage is that it absolutely proves my point without a shadow of a doubt unless you remove it from context.  This passage is about deception from Antichrists.  So, in the context of deception about Antichrists, the anointing of the Holy Spirit will abide in you so that you do not need these false teachings.  We know this because the Holy Spirit has already taught us everything about the true Christ.  The Holy Spirit teaches us about the true Christ, and helps us to discern false teachings.  This is powerful truth that I can and do receive. 

I’m very sorry that Biblical truth saddens you.  The Holy Spirit doesn’t need to tell me anything about that other stuff, stuff that is not in the Bible, and here is why.  The Holy Spirit was sent to witness to Jesus and His redeeming work on the Cross.  The Holy Spirit gives us the gift of belief in the revealed Scripture.  There is no other revelation required.  I believe that the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is wholly sufficient for my salvation.  I believe that the Scripture alone testifies to this truth.  I believe this because the Holy Spirit has made me believe this.  The Holy Spirit has enabled me to believe in the truth of Scripture.  There is no continuing revelation.  There is no additional scripture.  There are no amendments.  There is no second holy book.  If you believe in any of that stuff, then you are denying the sufficiency of the resurrection.  I’m not going to put myself in such a position.  It isn’t because I’m all that clever, I’m not.  I’m going with the Scripture and Jesus as revealed, because Peter did.  As Peter said, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.”

But so that I am not guilty of mere assertion, let us study the Holy Spirit according to Jesus.  How about in Luke 24?  He opened their minds to understand Scripture.  You are witnesses of these things.  He sent the promise of the Father upon them.  Notice that He didn’t say he was going to send more LawJohn 16 has a section called the Work of the Holy Spirit.  Perhaps we should read that together.

The Work of the Holy Spirit

“I did not say these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. 5 But now I am going to him who sent me, and none of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’ 6 But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; 10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Jesus thought that the Holy Spirit was going to “convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment.”  All three of these issues Jesus explains in terms of himself.  Powerful stuff!  I believe that the Holy Spirit does what Jesus said the Holy Spirit does.  Put your proof texts back into context and see if you can see them afresh in terms of Jesus.  The whole Bible is about Jesus, all of it.  That is what I believe.  The Holy Spirit does what?  The Holy Spirit convicts the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment.  Now look at verse 14:  He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.  That looks pretty straight forward either in context or out of context.  Some verses are just more important than others.  Those are the ones that usually have clear and obvious meaning, like John 16:14.

I’ll take Jesus’ Word on what the Holy Spirit does and doesn’t do.  Sola Scriptura is a part of my belief set.  It is a part of the Reformation.  It is a part of a systemic theology that I happen to believe is correct.  The Holy Spirit has opened my mind completely, to a faith in the fullness and Grace of Jesus, in His redemptive work on the Cross, on my need for Salvation from a wrathful and just God, of His propitiating atonement on the behalf of those elect to whom the Holy Spirit has given the gift of belief.  I know that you have been given that gift.  I just hope that you will hold fast to the singularly important issue and let go of all of the chafe.  

--Ogre--

Tuesday, January 25, 2011

Paul, Tell me your story…part 3

The post that just won’t die.  The question today is not about Paul.  The question is about telling my story.  Why not tell my story?  In order to start to answer this question, let me tell you Troll’s story; it is much more interesting.
Once upon a time, stories about trolls always start this way, there was a troll that lived under a bridge.  You would think that he’d get an apartment or something from all of the cash he’s made from blogging, but this was once upon a time, and that implies that it was long ago, before blogging, before the internet, but not before roast mutton sandwiches with a thin slice of tomato.  Troll was minding his own business, collecting tolls and eating things, when an ogre came to his bridge.  The Ogre started to tell him a story about why Troll shouldn’t try to eat him.  For one thing, there was some doubt as to which would do the eating.  Secondly, Ogre was feeling nauseous that day, having gotten hold of some rather rancid pork, and he just wasn’t up to fighting.  Troll had not had that experience with pork, in fact, pigs and hogs were more like appetizers to him, hardly worth chewing.  There was just no way that Troll was going to be able to have the same experience eating pork that Ogre had.  So, Troll was getting ready for a good old fashioned melee.  Ogre was determined to deter Troll, because not only was he nauseous, but had a ham bone stuck between his teeth, and it was giving him a headache.  Finally, Ogre decided to tell Troll that he could have eternal life in Jesus.  Now, Trolls live particularly long lives, longer than most empires last in fact.  But Troll was intrigued with this Jesus fellow.  Ogre talked for a long time and Troll began to understand about justification and imputation.  He learned about sin and reconciliation.  Ogre was very elegant and thoughtful in his presentation…for an Ogre.  Troll realized, not quite of his own choosing, that there was truth in the Words that Ogre spoke.  Later that week, on Thursday, a bit after 7 in the evening, Troll was Baptized, right there, under the bridge, by a passing bishop with whom he bargained for the sacrament.  Now, a few decades later, Troll insists on telling the Gospel to any who chance upon his bridge.  It is a steep price for travelers to pay, listening to Troll talk, but it is far better than being eaten.
Let’s analyze this story, shall we?  Is there anything particularly profound about Ogre’s story?  Troll wasn’t impressed.  It didn’t seem likely that Ogre’s experience, while impressive to Ogre, was going to be shared by Troll.  In much the same way, our own experiences are not likely to be duplicated by those to whom we witness.  Every person is unique.  The sharing of experiences and feelings recruits the listener to share the experience and feeling.  What if they can’t have that feeling?  What if they have the feeling, or something that sounds like it might be the experience, but that feeling is gone by next Tuesday?  What sort of argument is an experience or a feeling?

The Gospel is external to us.  It is historical fact.  I know that some will argue that it is easier to defend a personal experience than a fact.  True.  But what does a personal experience of yours prove to me?  Nothing.  Facts might prove something.  Facts require a bit of work, yes.  You have to know the facts.  You have to have build a system of facts that is logical and can stand up to argument.  You have to learn how to build an argument and defend an argument.  My goodness, that’s starting to sound like work!  Yes, it is.

Let me show you something amazing.  Acts 2.  Peter appeals to scripture.  He appeals to fulfilled prophesy.  He testifies to the resurrection of Jesus Christ.  This is Peter!  Name a person, just one, whose personal testimony you think just might be fairly persuasive.  Is Peter pretty close to the top of that list?  Sorry, then.  Peter thinks talking about fulfilled prophesy and the resurrection is more important by far.  That is the proper example.  That is the testimony that is Worthy of Christ.  Yes, it is the harder road.  Yes, there just might be an amazing conversion experience at the end of it.  But when the warm fuzzies fade away, there will be a sound structure built from scripture and historical facts left in the listener.

For completeness, let me lay out one more negative thought of personal experience, just a little thicker.  Oh, the arrogance!  You have the story of the greatest life ever lived on earth at your disposal, and you think that your life has greater significance?!  Really?  You think that because you are so special, talking about yourself is actually going to move someone to read about some other guy that neither of you has met.  You would have a friend build a relationship with someone based upon your experience with that someone without your friend having any significant knowledge of that person.  Please!  I want you to tell me that you would marry a person without learning anything about them based solely on how you feel about them.  Yes, I know, it is done.  What are the odds of those relationships lasting a long time.  What if you marry someone that you’ve known a long time, someone who is becoming your best friend?  What are the odds of those relationships lasting a long time.

The example of the Apostles is my point.  Lay out your argument.  Use scripture.  Use facts.  Appeal to Christian evidences.  Tell the Gospel.  Leave the pronoun “I” out of it.  If it is the Greatest Story Ever Told, then tell it.  You may not have time to tell it all in one encounter.  It may not be your encounter that the person remembers later.  The Holy Spirit does NOT witness about you.  The Holy Spirit witnesses about Christ.  Tell the Gospel.  It is the best argument you have going.

--Ogre--

Monday, January 24, 2011

Paul, tell me your story…part 2

It is not often that I’ll write something and then find the need to expound on my rather lengthy prose so shortly thereafter.  This is such a moment.  Only a week ago, I asked not to be burdened with your story, but rather that we should all defer to The Story as revealed in the Bible.  Once again, the example of Paul has been raised up as a defense of using our testimonies rather than scripture and Christian evidences for Evangelism and Apologetics.  I shall try again with Paul to demonstrate that Paul does nothing of the sort.  The confusion lies in the distinction of Paul’s unique position in redemptive history as the Apostle to the Gentiles from our own lives.

Paul wrote twelve letters that are included in the Canon.  If Paul wrote Hebrews, then this only helps my argument, but let’s say that he didn’t for my purpose here.  In nine of the epistles, Paul begins by claiming that he is an Apostle of Christ Jesus; in one other, he refers to himself as an apostle in the body of the letter.  Therefore, the cornerstone of this debate is the defining of the word Apostle.  

According to the Bible, an Apostle is one in authority.  Matthew 10 is the great passage where Jesus commissions the first twelve apostles for ministry within the Royal family, the Jews.  He also differentiates between apostles and disciples in Matthew 10:24-25.  In Mark 3:14-15, Jesus says that apostles preach and have the authority to cast out demons.  Luke 9 gives us a similar commission of the apostles.  This remains the mission statement of the Apostles until after the resurrection when Christ assigns a new mission for the twelve.  Matthew 28:19-20, Mark 16:15-18, and Luke 24:48 proclaim the new plan also known as the Great Commission: you are witnesses, so spread the Gospel.

It is clear that after the Resurrection and Pentecost, the mission of the apostles has changed.  Acts 4:33 talks about the apostles giving their testimony of the resurrection.  Once Peter begins to spread the Gospel to the Gentiles, the direction of the whole mission of the apostles and the church shifts again.  Paul’s reinterpretation of Old Testament scripture and prophets is presented to the Counsel of Jerusalem, in light of the work of the Holy Spirit through both Peter and Paul.  The Jerusalem Counsel confirms the work of Peter and Paul among the Gentiles.

How does Paul lay claim to the title of Apostle?  The key lines are Acts 4:33 and Acts 9:15-16.  The apostles witness to the resurrection.  In order to give testimony to an event, a person must be an eyewitness in order to have credibility.  It is this area that Paul’s testimony is germane.  Because Paul is the only person after Pentecost who actually gives eyewitness testimony to the resurrection, his testimony is vitally important.  Paul is a hostile witness.  As a member of the Pharisees, and particularly to the more militant branch, Paul’s credentials as being hostile to Christians is well earned.  He has motive and opportunity to continue on the course he had been living.  He had no worldly incentive to change his path.  This is the instrument that Christ selects to be His final witness to His resurrection until the Last Day.  Paul’s suffering is foretold .  It is part and parcel to his testimony.  The calling of Paul is wrapped up into two parts: Paul did witness the Resurrected Jesus, and Paul will be taught the meaning of suffering.  But the key item is his eyewitness account.

Can we then draw a parallel between Paul’s defense of his apostleship in several of his epistles and the idea of our own testimony?  The answer to this question is obvious to me.  Can anyone of us actually give an eyewitness account to the resurrected Christ?  Until such a time, our own testimony is unnecessary and irrelevant.  We are not Apostles.  Christ is sitting at the Right Hand of God until He comes again in Glory to judge the living and the dead.  When he comes back, that’s called the Last Day, the end of this era.  It is a great and terrible day.  Until that time, we do not witness to his resurrection except from scripture that gives the accounts of the actual witnesses, the Apostles.  Our testimony is the scripture.

And so, once again, spare me your story, and I’ll spare you mine.  Instead, let’s get busy with telling the Greatest Story ever told, the Gospel.  The Word and the Spirit through the Word are where all of the power resides in this world.

--Ogre--

Wednesday, January 19, 2011

Paul, Tell me your Story.

One of my beloved and respected teachers made a comment about Paul that struck me as being at odds with my ideas about evangelism.  If you know Ogre, you know that I never take anything from any teacher as Gospel unless it dovetails with my understanding of Scripture.  This is not mean as disrespect or arrogance, although both may be perceived, but rather as an inquisitive student who pushes the envelope of any and all he encounters.  That’s why I’m the Ogre.

Paul is known as the Apostle to the Gentiles.  What is also true is that he spent the majority of his ministry visiting and writing churches that were predominantly made up of Jewish converts.  It was well known that Paul was not of the original twelve.  The use of the label “Apostle” on Paul was not received with the same sort of validation of authenticity as it was when referencing Peter or John.  Therefore, Paul often began his Epistles with a defense of his calling as an Apostle.

It has been said that this was an example of Paul telling his story to spread the Gospel.  This is the statement that I will be arguing against.  Starting with Romans, the first Pauline Epistle, Paul discusses his credentials as an Apostle for about one paragraph, then he dives into doctrine.  Paul, in his discussions of doctrine, ALWAYS grounds his arguments in scripture.  The Old Testament is cited by Paul either by direct quote or paraphrase over 70 times in the book of Romans.  Once Paul has finished defending his credentials, which he unfortunately has to do, Paul’s arguments are ALWAYS grounded in scripture, NOT in his experience.  This is an important distinction.

Jesus quoted scripture.  Jesus acted in accordance with what the Old Testament prophets, His prophets, stated would be the actions of the messiah.  Jesus grounded His earthly ministry in Scripture.  Paul always does the same.  He always grounds his arguments in Scripture.

Paul’s letters are a part of scripture.  All of the epistles are Apostolic utterances that have been included in the Canon.  Therefore, Paul's defense of his Apostleship is germane today for his validation as an author of scripture.  Once he has established his Apostolic credentials, his arguments for the Gospel are always about Jesus and His fulfillment of scripture.  He does NOT use his experience as an argument for the Gospel.

What example, then, can we take from the Bible in general, and Paul in particular, for our own evangelistic style?  Peter in his Pentecost sermon in Acts 2 reasons and argues from Scripture.  He doesn’t tell his story.  Granted, many listening know who he is, but his arguments are from Scripture.  Paul argues for the Gospel from Scripture and gives the Christian Evidences, the most important of which is the resurrection.  As a witness to the resurrected Christ, this one portion of Paul’s testimony is relevant.  All of the Apostles have the same portion of their testimony, and it is relevant.  We have these accounts recorded for us in the Bible.  They are the testimonies that are relevant

My testimony, as exciting and earth moving as it is to me, is not relevant.  My faith never has converted anyone, nor will it.  My testimony is about as useful as a soaking wet bath towel.  It is the Holy Spirit that converts the elect.  The Holy Spirit works to confirm the Gospel.  Why waste time and space with discussions of my own fascinating and non-reproducible story of conversion when the real Christian evidences are at my disposal.  They are timeless, topical, useful, effective, Scriptural, well documented and appropriate.  Plus, the Holy Spirit doesn’t lift up me or my experience.  The Holy Spirit lifts up the Gospel.

So, please.  Spare me your testimony and I’ll spare you mine.  Evangelism means to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ, not the story of Ogre, not even the story of Paul.

--Ogre--