Saturday, July 30, 2011

James vs Paul, again

Today’s topic is a difficult area, but one in which there are fine lines all over the place.  We are going to discuss the classic Paul vs. James false dichotomy. 

The starting point for this discussion is a conversation in which there is a hypothetical person whose normal temperament is bitter, angry and hostile.  The question is whether this behavior is evidence, in of itself, that the person who displays this unfortunate behavior habitually is lacking in the fruit of the spirit in accordance with both Paul and James.  My response in person lacked the depth necessary to tackle such a difficult issue.  The issue is the classic Liberal Hymn that we all know from our youth, “…they will know we are Christians by our Love.” Is that a fair statement? 

I like to begin this discussion with Luke 23:39-43.  In this example from Luke’s Gospel, we have a man who has clearly NOT demonstrated the fruits of the Spirit.  While we can argue that the Holy Spirit has not yet come into the world, there is another line of argument as well.  We can clearly state, based on the fact that he fully admits that he has earned his crucifixion by his less that wonderful works, that his righteousness before God is NOT based upon his works.  His righteousness is completely based upon his faith, a faith that he articulates at his death.  How do we make sense of this episode in light of James?  James seems to say that since a faith without works is dead, then this guy should have been damned.  But he is proclaimed righteous by none other than Jesus Himself.  All that he has demonstrable in his favor is his faith.

Paul and James have a history together.  Remember the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15.  The question before the apostles concerns the gentiles.  Do you have to be Jewish first to be Christian?  Notice first what Peter says in verses 7-11.  This clearly becomes the interpretation of the whole group.  Now, notice what James says in verses 12-21, quoting Amos 9:11-12.  What we MUST assume at this point is that James passes off on the notion of justification my faith alone.

Now, in their epistles, it is very important to keep in mind to whom each apostle is writing, when, and why.  Paul is usually writing to fledgling churches who are struggling with various issues, after the Jerusalem Council.  Paul never assumes the Gospel.  He always repeats the Gospel, restates the Gospel, teaches the Gospel, refers back to the Gospel, over and over again.  James, on the other hand, is believed to have written his letter prior to the Jerusalem Council.  What is amazing, therefore, is that reformed scholars do not believe that James is either disagreeing with Paul in his letters or with himself in Acts 15.  Here is why.

James argues that faith without works is dead.  But James is assuming that these Jewish Christians to whom he is writing already know the Gospel.  The question here is about antinomianism.  Neither Paul nor James believes that antinomianism is possible, but they go about discussing it from opposite sides of the argument.  Paul in Romans 6 argues that since we are dead to sin, should we go on sinning so that Grace may abound?  By no means, he says.  If you follow his argument through to the end of chapter 8, you will see that Paul does not believe that true faith will yield a person who lacks obedience.  But at the same time, because our bodies remain IN ADAM, we continue to sin despite our desire to be obedient.  And this forces us back to Christ in repentance.  This is Christian living according to Paul.  James argues in his second chapter that faith without works is dead.  But look carefully at the grammar of that passage.
14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
The proposition is that someone says he has faith.  James is questioning, not Paul’s definition of faith that justifies, but rather the supposition that the someone in question had true saving faith in the first place.  James says that there is no such thing as an antinomian because that sort of faith is dead; in other words, it does not lead to life.  Remember that when these guys are talking about life, they are talking about eternal life, and therefore justification.  So, James is in agreement with Paul on the subject of people who do not express the fruits of the spirit.

Now, two questions remain.  First, what are the fruits of the Spirit?  Second, how do recognize the fruits of the spirit in others and in ourselves?  The first question we often forget to ask, and yet it is the important precursor to the second question.  What does the Holy Spirit do?  The Holy Spirit testifies to the truth of the Gospel and brings true and saving faith to believers as a free gift.  Therefore, it follows that the fruit of the spirit is true and saving faith in Jesus Christ and His work for His followers on the Cross.

The second question is then about recognition.  Before we talk about others, let’s consider ourselves.  Do we believe that we are fallen and sinful creatures, completely without hope for salvation?  Do we believe that we need to obtain some sort of righteousness before God or else we are going to hell, and we have no avenue to do this on our own?  Do we humbly repent and come before God as broken and defeated creatures?  Do we believe that God in His mercy sent Jesus to be our only mediator and advocate, to live the life that we could not live, to die the death that God requires on our behalf, to impute His righteousness to us, His elect, to give to us, a free gift of Grace, this belief in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and His work for us on the Cross?  Then, yes, we have true and saving faith.  Now, relax for a second.  How does that make you feel?  Grateful?  Humbled?  In awe of His mercy and Grace?  Desperate to please Him?  Good.  Now, follow the commandments.  When you mess up, and you will, repent, turn back to Him and receive His Grace and do it again.

What about your neighbor?  How do know that he has true and saving faith?  If works have nothing to do with it, how can you tell?  The truth is that you can’t tell.  That is the point.  We are not given the job of fruit inspector.  Jesus is the fruit inspector general, not us.  We might suspect one way or another, but let me give you two examples.  The Dali Lama is a rather pious sort.  He is generally regarded as righteous before man.  But he has no righteousness before God, unless he believes in the redeeming work of Jesus on the Cross.  Some would claim that he is a better Christian than most of us because of his civic righteousness.  Now look again at the thief in Luke 23.  He had so little civic righteousness that the Romans killed him for his works.  This is the danger of fruit inspection.  We just do not know.

Therefore, keep your own efforts in front of you.  Be obedient to the Lord in Gratitude and Obedience.  Love God and Love your neighbor.  Do these things because you are one of the elect, you understand the Gospel, and now you want to spread the good News about what Jesus Christ has done for you.  What did he do for you?  For me, He lived the perfect life that I couldn’t.  He died the death that I deserved.  He has declared me righteous before God on the Last Day.  He did all of this to save me from the Wrath of God in His infinite mercy and Grace.  Through the Blood of Christ, I live.  They will know we are Christians because we declare the Gospel of Christ, not because we actually lived in a way different from them.

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4 comments:

  1. Comment moved here intact:

    These are the fruits of the Spirit:
    "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another. (Galatians 5:22-26 NASB).

    I disagree that we aren't to be fruit inspectors. I believe that we (the spiritual man) are to be fruit inspectors and Christ is the tree inspector.

    "The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. "For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ" (1 Corinthians 2:15, 16 ESV)

    This word for judge is the same as discerning, not condemning.

    And the thought that the world will know us by or love is not just from an old liberal hymn but from scripture:
    "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.""
    (John 13:35 ESV)

    Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth. By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; (1 John 3:18, 19 ESV)

    Sorry for posting here; it's hard to post on blog when on my iPhone. Again, my point was not a salvation issue...this world is so full of Christians that have bitter outlooks and quite frankly lead no one to Christ because they are just so miserable. That should not be so! And that is fruits of the flesh - not the Spirit. And we are to correct our fellow brothers when we see these things playing out in their lives. I fully expect the ones who love me to correct me when I need it, as Paul commanded us to do. Yes, keep your hands clean, inspect your own life, but also be someone who holds others accountable to their claim of walking in Christ.

    PS...this wasn't supposed to be about Paul and James. That was just a sidebar scripture that didn't focus on the point of bad fruit.

    And I don't think James disagreed with Paul either...we agree there.

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  2. Response part 1.

    No, this isn’t a sidebar. This is the tough stuff. Starting from the top, the very scripture that is posted at the top says that we are not to be boastful challenging one another = no fruit inspection. This whole Galatians passage is about Christian Liberty. It is akin to Romans 14. Do not submit again to a yoke of slavery in verse 1. This is Galatians we are talking about here. Context. The Galatians were adding to the Gospel, adding the yoke of the Law after supposedly becoming Christians. Remember, Paul is furious with them for this. He is trying to teach about Christian liberty and in that particular passage, he is discussing the difference between saved man and unsaved man. This is ABSOLUTELY a salvation issue. If you do not look at the categories in the way that Paul has set up the categories, you will come to conclusions that offer different interpretations that what Paul intended.

    The second scripture is out of context and does NOT say what it is asserted to say. Here is the next quoted passage:

    14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16 “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

    Again, this is a contrast between saved and unsaved man. This is also ABSOLUTELY a salvation issue. The natural man is man prior to receiving the gift of faith from the Holy Spirit. The Spiritual man has already received the gift of true faith. Go back to the beginning of that chapter especially to the paragraph just above. The Spirit was given to us so that we might UNDERSTAND the things of God, i.e. the Gospel, and testify about those things to those who might be spiritual, i.e. preach the Gospel. The Wisdom of God is in the context of the first paragraph. Proclaim Christ crucified. Please, please, please leave the text in its context. Paul always has an antecedent indicative for every imperative. What is more, both of these passages are indicatives, not imperatives.

    You point on judge in this context is spot on. Discern the truth. The Spiritual man has the ability after becoming transformed by true faith to see through that which the natural man cannot see. The Spiritual man cannot be judged based upon what? By whom? Again, the contrast is with the natural man. Now, does this mean that we should then be judging other spiritual men? No, that is not the discussion that Paul has set up in this paragraph. This is about saved man in his relationship with unsaved man.

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  3. Response part 2

    As to Jesus’ words in John 13, I am referencing a historical trend in the church called Protestant Liberalism. That hymn has been used to take Jesus’ words out of context to mean an imperative without the grounding that Jesus Himself gives in that very passage in the indicatives that are about Him. Jesus is has been teaching about the application of the Law among disciples for some time. He is amping up the Love = Law theme even more. He is about to die. Love means that you are willing to lay down your life for your neighbor in the name of His truth. This is a tough lesson, particularly when he has already increased “neighbor” to include your enemy. The Protestant Liberals take this out of the context of Jesus speaking to disciples, in this case Apostles, who by definition believe in Jesus and what is about to happen to him, and project it to justification, which is in no way the meaning of the passage. That was the context of my comments.

    And finally, 1 John 3. With laser beam efficiency, we have picked out the passages that have the most potential for misinterpretation. And here it is again. Instead of reading this passage as an imperative, look at it as a means of internal inspection and self assessment. Am I living up to the standard set by Christ in Loving my neighbor? Of course I fall short. Read the verse next verses. For when our heart condemns us…. When we fall short of this new standard of the Law….

    I don’t really want to push the last paragraph too hard, but hear this point. When scripture is approached with an absence of categories, misinterpretation abounds. What this means is that the meaning has been decided prior to reading the passage rather than letting the passage tell its own part in the slowly unwinding story of redemptive history. If you test those verses with the pietistic hermeneutic that has been taught by so many in this Pelagian, works over Grace theology American church, against the rest of the Bible, the rest of the Bible has to be shredded and distorted to make this fit into the whole. Rome ran aground of this problem all the time. It is why we revolted against them.

    I must insist that as we go forward, you let go of your preconceived notions about everything. We need to start with the framework before we put on the meat. The tough questions should wait until the foundation is solid. We are not speaking from the same theological position. Your position is what is taught by far the vast majority of churches in the US in this time. But that was not the case 150 years ago. Are we smarter than we were then? In some ways, perhaps. Has the Bible changed in that time? No, it hasn’t. We have changed. We have distorted the truth. I leave you with this instruction. Read the whole letter of 1 John. It is about our salvation. Focus for a moment on the first few verses of 1 John 4. Those are written for our time, it would seem. John is wrestling with the same questions you are with other people in another time. John’s message is clear. It is all about our salvation. The here and now is our reaction to our salvation in Christ’s Blood.

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  4. I hate posting in comments. I can't edit my typos. sigh....

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